this would be cool feature to have in jb

[Buch]

http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/eclipsewinforms?open&S_TACT=104AHW61&S_CM
P=GR&ca=dgr-jw01eclpswnfrms

This is first time I see thing like this (MS to Java) - before I saw only
Java to MS direction (J++, J#).

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[Paul Nichols (TeamB)]

Buch wrote:

I agree Buch. I have to work sometimes in both NET and Java, and this would
help notonly with switching IDEs, but also dual boots between Windows and
Linux. We use Unix for Java development, and Windows for NET right now and
a huge PITA, to have to dual boot.

[Paul Nichols (TeamB)]

Post by Paul Nichols (TeamB)
help notonly with switching IDEs, but also dual boots between Windows and

Have you considered using VMWare or alike?
(I always have several clean images of Linux and Windowses in archive,
along
with images with different software setups ...)

Of course.. But since I am running JB Enterprise Studio, the memory
constraints on my corporate machine will really not allow this :)

Perhaps if they would give me a machine like my personal ones ;-)

[Buch]

Post by Paul Nichols (TeamB)
Perhaps if they would give me a machine like my personal ones ;-)

Perhaps you can get one.
You should substantiate your claim with time graphs and analysys.
Perform simple task requiring windows and linux, and measure time to boot, to start ide, compile, reboot, copy source, start ide, compile, and back
Somethin like T1 + T2 + T3 ....+ Tn = T(without_VMWare)
You acn find additional information about that kind of decompositin in bussines schoolbooks, regarding "work organisation" (or whatever the english term is)
Then perform the same on your home PC (laptop? - why dont you have laptop?, let them buy you fast laptop with 2-4 gigs of ram and dvd burner), and show that T(without_VMWare) > T(with_VMWare).
After comparing time, make additional graphs, with prefferably steep curves, having time (hours) for one dimension, and your average price per hour.
Another graph is per week, or even per month or year, shoving how much wasted time accumulates for big (long) projects, and this will show that investing in faster hardware will improove work process.
Also, there is synergistic effect (not measurable in money) of having simultaneous IDEs, enabling better resolving of platform specific difficulties.
There is also wmvare image that is configured just like customers machine, so you can have simultaneous test before embarrasing yourself with potential setup and compatibility problems.
There is also time save in having multiple images for different development requirements, so you don't have to waste entire day to setup your environment from scratch.

Well, I'm sure you can make several pages of text, plus graphs out of this, so I'll stop ... :)

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[Buch]

Post by Paul Nichols (TeamB)
help notonly with switching IDEs, but also dual boots between Windows and

Have you considered using VMWare or alike?
(I always have several clean images of Linux and Windowses in archive, along
with images with different software setups ...)

[Paul Furbacher [TeamB]]

Post by Buch
http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/eclipsewinforms?open&S_TACT=104AHW61&S_CM
P=GR&ca=dgr-jw01eclpswnfrms
This is first time I see thing like this (MS to Java) - before I saw only
Java to MS direction (J++, J#).

I don't suppose that it comes with source code? Since
it seems as though IBM may turn this into a product for
sale, I doubt it. (Isn't that the goal of a lot of their
trial balloons put out in alphaworks? I don't follow
alphaworks that much, but my perception is that if something
doesn't grab a big following, IBM drops it. If people do
become dependent on the trial version, they start charging
money for future release versions. Or am I under the wrong
impression? As I said, I don't follow alphaworks that much.
The times I have followed some of their projects, most just
sort of died a quiet death or a few were commercialized.)

Maybe even if it doesn't come with source, one could
look at their class interfaces, etc., and get an
idea of what it would take to write an OpenTool
to do the same, using the
full_path_to_ibm.redmond.controlhost.dll.

Just some ideas to spur you on to writing an OpenTool
that would probably be very appreciated by the community.
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Save time, search the archives:
http://www.borland.com/newsgroups/ngsearch.html

Is it in Joi Ellis's Faq-O-Matic?
http://www.visi.com/~gyles19/fom-serve/cache/1.html

Finally, please send responses to the newsgroup only.
That means, do not send email directly to me.
Thank you.

[Buch]

Post by Paul Furbacher [TeamB]
I don't suppose that it comes with source code? Since

I downloaded it yesterday, and I'm waiting today's afternon to play with it.
I don't know about source, but from couple-of-seconds-glance I can tell it looks like it is windows specific, because of one dll required (and I haven't seen linux so).

Post by Paul Furbacher [TeamB]
it seems as though IBM may turn this into a product for

Yes, you are right, it is most probably destined to become part of wsad. It has version number 2.x.
Anyway, I think they'll include it in wsad regardless of actual interest, even for pure marketing reasons.
Somebody on this ng before said that "money is in integrating Java and NET", so this looks like it.

Post by Paul Furbacher [TeamB]
Just some ideas to spur you on to writing an OpenTool
that would probably be very appreciated by the community.

I would like to, but I have to complete my pet project first. :)
Now that jb people are informed, perhaps somebody will get to it and become immortal :)
I suggest that one should study dll's interface... but I'm talking without actually having a good look at it, so I'll stop before I say something incorrect.

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